@desafinado i'd submit that attempting by force to draw lines to match regional-majority-perceived nations has a track record. it is bloodbaths in the redrawings, new oppressions by the formerly oppressed, a long tail of instability between the new states. if borders are conditional as a matter of principle, they are always conditional and subject to revision. everywhere always has minorities, often with colorable claims to oppression in various degrees. segregation by violence doesn't end this.