@HeavenlyPossum @whatzaname @passenger i agree in practice that's what they are. but i think many of them begin sincerely enough, imagining their creed is about noncoercion and solely voluntary cooperation.

(they tend also to begin from a position of having, or being likely to have, so they are looking for something consistent with keeping. i can extend some benefit of the doubt, but i'll agree one can extend too much.)