@akkartik @jannem we might all in this conversation agree that the geographical freedom to move 1000s of kms is maybe worth the cost of the remedies, of imperfectly recovering what we’ve lost by it.

but what do we think of the freedom to build and move to car dependent suburbs? also worth its costs, both in reconstituting or compensating for what wld have been easy in dense settlements, and culture and conveniences that wld otherwise have emerged we now do without?