Every correct tendency has an extreme that discredits it.

One has to simultaneously:

(1) identify what is correct,

(2) avoid succumbing to exaggerated, dogmatic, versions of even importantly correct ideas,

and

(3) avoid taking the existence of foolish, dangerous, even destructive extremes as a heuristic to decide that a tendency or set of ideas has no merit at all.

Nobody said this was easy.

@failedLyndonLaRouchite @neil That's as it should be. That 1% should be a friend of yours, though, so as a community everyone has better options than Zoom or Teams or whatever.

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You can self-host on a , cf @neil neilzone.co.uk/2021/04/running

I have mixed feelings about some of the investors, and I'd rather see publicly arranged and organized, but I'm glad to see experiments like this. theguardian.com/us-news/2023/a ht @realcaseyrollins

( my piece on microcities: interfluidity.com/v2/8772.html )

I’ve just started to use in place of . They are taking some heat for requiring third-party authentication (google, facebook, or github, hopefully others soon) to create new conferences on their free meet.jit.si/ site.

I never considered using their site. I am fleeing the architecture of centralized platforms, not particular “bad” firms.

continues to support (and there authentication—or not—however you like). So I remain quite delighted with them. 1/

Here’s their announcement of an authentication requirement: jitsi.org/blog/authentication- ht @raccoon

Here’s my recent write-up of setting up a self-hosted installation: tech.interfluidity.com/2023/08 /fin

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@raccoon Sure! I hope it works for you. I didn’t really consider using meet.jit.si/ because it’s the architecture I’m fleeing, not zoom or microsoft or google per se. This kind of thing (or much worse) is always going to happen, eventually, with a centralized provider who is both responsible and might face lucrative but ugly temptations. I never would have given a second look but for . Here’s my write-up of getting started: tech.interfluidity.com/2023/08

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@raccoon i haven’t tried android, but in an iphone when the mobile device hits the jitsi conference in a browser, it offers a big button to open in jitsi app, or a small link to continue in the browser. clucking the button brings up the app pretty seamlessly. if you want to try it, gimme ~5 mins and i’ll make a room, we can say hi.

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@raccoon is very viable!

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@SteveRoth right. first choice is hold as assets or spend on consumption, and is largely predictable by existing wealth. second choice is how to structure and rebalance holdings.

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@otfrom all the best bits!

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@otfrom me neither, IDK!

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@otfrom perhaps it’s a zombie mating call!

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@otfrom ha!

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@otfrom IDK

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@otfrom (it is the very young, my kid in particular, who sometimes does this. i’m pretty sure he’s not complaining about his joints.)

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When people IRL say IDK, they say “I decay.” I don’t love it.

if he’s re-elected the mugshot goes on mt rushmore.

enmity thrives as a mutually enforced equilibrium.

@SteveRoth I think I agree with your characterization! (the abstract stuff, #1, #2, #3 and subtypes. I don't really have comments on different account systems different choices about what (and for whom) to capitalize as investment / "saving" and what not to. I think that depends on what you're trying to do with your accounting system. 1/

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@SteveRoth I would point out, though, that even though they are conceptually distinct and not *necessarily* connected at all, there are in practice connections between #3 (mere rebalancing, swaps, churn) and real economic activity most directly impacted by #2. For example, if wealthholders in aggregate seek to churn into real estate, their bids are one way (not the only way) RE prices rise, very likely leading to new construction to bleed what would be #3 into #2 at those higher prices. 2/

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@SteveRoth Most of what the very wealthy "do" with their assets is #3. But their patterns of doing that pretty directly impact both the and of the rest of us. Swapping from M2 to VC in sufficient scale meant the (near) death of the traditional taxi industry, for example. /fin

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@SteveRoth (I guess maybe that is really in your taxonomy, if we consider newly issued financial claims as new investment goods! So in that example, it's not #3 per se. But when share prices rise in a sector, there is often an increase in activity in that sector, not necessarily connected to any issuance of new shares. Mere revaluations, in practice usually resulting from "tatonnement" of asset swaps, affect real economic activity.)

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@mekk @llimllib y'all jus' playin' with me now.

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