@Hyolobrika sometimes people are glad to win bets by helping them come true.
you really didn’t have to remind me.
it isn’t “sad” this makes me feel.

@eyesquash i don’t think we appreciated at the time just how consequential that concession would be. i miss those days.
people act like i’m not resisting because all i do is sit on the couch and watch tv and eat junk food.
what they don’t notice is i’m eating Cheetos.
to salve the wound, Trump / Elon can console Zelensky that while, sure, there will be territorial concessions and no NATO membership, there won’t really be much of a NATO anyway so that’s not giving up all that much, is it?
@eyesquash no. i don’t think that’s right. institutions form the public not in the sense if brainwashing us, but in the way they structure out identities. the US two-party system, combined with the internet’s nationalization of politics, have reformed us into two wildly hostile tribes. 1/
@eyesquash if we had an electoral system that yielded multiple parties and encouraged flexible coalitions, we’d have a public no less authentic, no more brainwashed, but that would understand itself and participate in politics quite differently, with different results. 2/
@eyesquash we want a democratic system that shapes its public into something capable of deliberating and choosing well, of acting both legitimately (consent of the governed), but also wisely. how to build that is an institutional question, of the sort that the US Constitution was an early attempt. 3/
@eyesquash we are far from that ideal now, and yes it is more than dispiriting how difficult it is for publics to conduct politics not within institutions that have grown dysfunctional and deformed, but above and around them so we can change them and reform ourselves collectively. 4/
@eyesquash last week I would have said it’s hard but that’s the work. this week i am not sure whether to say that or concede defeat and try to find a less scary place for my kid to live. maybe the two aren’t mutually exclusive. /fin
to salve the wound, Trump / Elon can console Zelensky that while, sure, there will be territorial concessions and no NATO membership, there won’t really be much of a NATO anyway so that’s not giving up all that much, is it?
[new draft post] It's the parasocials, stupid https://drafts.interfluidity.com/2024/11/08/its-the-parasocials-stupid/index.html
from “Exit Right” by Gabriel Winant https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/exit-right/

@eyesquash no. the alternative is to point to institutions and leaders. the electorate is what it is, the crooked timber we all constitute. but it doesn’t have a voice or will independent of the institutions we develop to give it one. under different electoral systems, we’d have drastically different outcomes. we’d have a drastically different electorate, because institutions shape the public much more than public opinion can reshape institutions.
@falcennial (oh, i think the general point is right on and well-deserved, scorn on! but thanks!)
@falcennial i’d join your mockery, except i’m about to publish such a take even though i was sure that Kamala would win… 🤷♂️
terrible circumstances, but this is a wonderful observation by Martha Derthick, via @adamgurri https://www.liberalcurrents.com/a-practical-program-for-resisting-a-trump-second-term/
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touting a record stock market as an indicator of Biden’s great economy seems kind of dumb now, doesn’t it?
@wim not a counterpoint at all. i totally agree. delivering on a forward-looking rate of change is not delivering substantial, material results people really perceive in time. what was perceivably delivered was high prices, matched among most (not all) by wage gains perceived as personally earned, not macroeconomic, but then stolen by inflation.
@BenRossTransit that last is the whole problem. Biden was a good start, domestically, economically! but these four years were just a start, too soon to bear dividends really perceptible to ordinary people. yes, if people were part of social formations with trusted leaders who could vouch for nascent trends, that helped. but pretending this was a great economy and anyone who failed to accept that was obtuse didn’t match experience, felt like a kind of bullying.
@KarlHeinzHasliP i think the planet would be even less likely to survive a bitcoin standard.
management of the US dollar is now in the hands of… the people who’ve been buying a ton of bitcoin in a bet on the imminent death of the US dollar.
@nougatmachine i’d like to say no, but i think in fact most teamsters saw that as protecting what was already theirs, which is something a government is supposed to do rather than something you give extra credit because it’s done. a Trump Administration wouldn’t have done it. but that’s abstract, counterfactual. nobody did anything more than the right thing.